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主  题:  本人一年以来,呕心沥血收集“袁峰(MSFT)”大哥精彩回帖的贴子,现在回报社会。有不全的请大家补充。 
作  者:  smallrole (小角色) 
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所属社区:  扩充话题 程序人生 
问题点数:  20 
回复次数:  294 
发表时间:  2005-2-28 15:13:55 
  
 
  

1.我想找老板加薪..却不知道该怎么说...兄弟们help me!

You have to give your boss enough reasons to raise your salary. For example:

1. I have worked for your company for N years and I think my skill has improved a lot, so I think I need a raise.

2. I'm more productive than Mr.X which earns higher salary than me, so I think it's fair for me to get a raise to get closer to his salary.

3. My friend is working in another company with higher pay, but I really like working here, the only problem is that ...

2.加入我们公司后,你是怎么规划你的职业方向?

Depending on your situation, there can be lots of answers:

1) I'm quite new in this field, so for the next five years, I want to became as strong as possible in technical field.

2) I think I'm quite experienced in software development, so for the next two years, I would like to became an expert in your domain, and then move to a techincal leadership role.

3) ...

软件业中有哪份工作高薪又稳定而不很累地?

Actually, it's possbile. You just need to work for a really good company.

1. Good company pays more reasonable.
2. Jobs are normally quite stable because they know how to make money.
3. Working hour for good companies is not so long as they promote work-life balance.

HP used to be such a good company. But software jobs with HP are more boring because it's basically a hardware company. Microsoft is little bit more stressful than HP, but jobs are much more exciting. Intel is said to be much more stressful.

 
  回复人: virgin_killer(身子骨很虚) ( ) 信誉:65  2005-2-28 15:16:27  得分: 0 
 
 
  
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 回复人: lmzh171(数学是计算机科学的基础) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-2-28 15:17:26  得分: 0 
 
 
  
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 回复人: smallrole(小角色) ( ) 信誉:98  2005-2-28 15:19:37  得分: 0 
 
 
  
> 但是总觉得测试好像是没文化的人做的事

If you think that way, you should not even be hired to do testing.

Testing is very critical in software development, especially for big companies like HP and Microsoft. At Microsoft, SDE/T writes programs to test production code automatically. There are less coding in testing at HP, but things may change recently.

Testing organization is involved with production development from start to finish.

> 会不会受歧视?

I've been working for HP for 8 years, Microsoft for 3 years. No one cares where are you from, where did you get your degree, how many degrees have you got.

Just show them what you can do.

> 有微软的吗,有认识吴波的吗,95年进微软的,前些日子培训过我,在西格玛大厦

Yes. There is a 吴波 who used to work here. He is now in Microsoft Beijing.

> 不知楼主在哪工作

I'm in building 2. I used to work in building 9 and 10.

> 并不全是“X”形的建筑,其他的建筑是非办公楼吗?

The first 6 buildings are in X-shape, the next three are in double X-shape, the new buildings are not in X-shape. All the buildings with numbers are office buildings. There are about 20,000 people working in those buildings, with over 1,500 Chinese.

> 但是我有个关于发展的问题想请教

Just post your question on CSDN and point me to it.

> 我还以为是个卫星图,呵呵
Those pictures are taken by satellite.

> 卫星拍摄得也太.....

Are you looking at http://blog.joycode.com/fyuan/articles/34760.aspx? It looks quite good to me. You can even see cars driving on streets.

> The buildings are in X-shape,why?

Builds 1-6, 8-10 are in X-shape to maximize number of offices with outside windows. Unlike most company, each Microsoft person normally has his/her own seperate small office. Each office is about 10 to 12 square meters. But new empolyee normally have to share office with other people for some time.

 
 
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 回复人: smallrole(小角色) ( ) 信誉:98  2005-2-28 15:20:16  得分: 0 
 
 
  
> 楼主,我现在在钻研windows内核。在微软有没有这方面的工作机会?

Microsoft is still hiring 3000-5000 people a year. So there are lots of jobs for good software design engineers, software design engineers in test (QA), and program managers.

> 用C++写驱动程序,月薪7500
I've written printer drivers using C++. But printer drivers have moved to user mode. So writing them is more like application development than driver development.

> 为什么外国程序员的工资是几万,中国的是几千?公司要招一个外籍华人,工资比我多个0,不平衡!

Suppose your company pays $5,000 a month to hire a software engineer in US, which is $60,000 a year:

1) Around 20% goes to federal income tax, social security tax, medicare tax, plus possible state income tax. Now he has 4,000 a month left.
2) Around 20% goes to his own retirement account (401K). Now he has 3,000 a month left.
3) Around 25% goes to house/apartment payment. Now he has 1,750 a month left.
4) $500 goes to utility bills, grocery, etc. Now he has 1,250 a month left
5) $400 goes to car payment, auto insurance, gas.

Now he has $850 a month left, a net saving of 17% (plus 401k, plus social security) if he does not spend on other things.

In US, a software engineer job is supposed to be able to support a whole family (wife staying at home, 2 kids, a house, two cars, vacation, medical/dental insurance).

> 并购时代程序员如何完成自我定位?
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I know two groups of friends at HP, one group worked on HP's WinCE machines in Singapore, another group works on HP's inject printers in Vancouver Washington.

When HP merged with Compaq, the WinCE group in Singapore lost their jobs because Compaq's WinCE machines are better than HP's. The printer group in Vancouver Washington was happy because they can sell more printers with Compaq PCs now.

Normally company merge is followed by job cut to reduce cost. Only the better one will survive.

> Why don't overseas Chinese return to China?
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A few years ago, I wanted to return to China, so I applied for an R&D manager job with Intel research lab in Shanghai. I went through the telephone interview, and then called off the interview because a publisher signed a contract with me to write a book. After the book is published, I joined Microsoft. Now I would not consider returning to China until my boy enters college in a few years.

China has lots of engineers, lots of talented engineers. What I read is that China/India are producing more engineering students than US. You can constantly read that college graduates are having a hard time finding jobs in China. Some people are even opting for working without pay. What China lacks are marketing/management talents who can organize people together to run a real money making bussiness. One good way to produce those people is working for foreign companies like HP, IBM, Microsoft for a long time. This definitely takes time.

But returning to China is not the only way to help China or help students/engineers in China. Internet brings people much closer than ever before.

Good luck, guys.

 
 
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 回复人: smallrole(小角色) ( ) 信誉:98  2005-2-28 15:20:47  得分: 0 
 
 
  
> 现在手上有50W资金,做IT的话做什么好?

If you're asking such questions here, put the money into a bank or other safe place.

The real question is what can you do to make money from money, with higher return rate than a bank or stock market.

> 成熟的人和不成熟的人之间有什么区别

A mature person has few defects in the program running in his/her head.

A mature person can improve the program running in his/her head gradually to make it better.

 

> 请问谁知道到微软亚洲工程院的薪酬情况

Big companies normally have different levels of jobs. Even within the same level, there is difference in salary.

Good companies pay according to your experience, skill and contribution. Even if you do not get a good pay to start with, your salary will increase quickly if you're really good. No 送礼, 后门, 说情 is needed.

> 现在的1000元人民币相当于30年前的多少元?(

Come on, you do not want to return to life 30 years ago. It was miserable life, although little bit better than 40 years ago.

30 years ago, 1975, my parents were making 88.88 RMB combined monthly. Three of us gets 0.88 RMB as monthly allowance. School fee is around 7.50 RMB half a year. With three kids, we can't afford to pay school at the begining of a semester, so we had to pay them over several months. My father was responsible for putting food on the table, but his budget was only 15 RMB a month, or 50 cents a day. People seldom get meat, fish, egg, fruit to eat, because there was not much money left for them and supply was limited.

The rice we ate was of very poor quality with lots of stones inside. The supply of rice was limited, so we had to buy 山芋干 to cook together with rice. Good quality noddle was only provided on Dec 26th, Mao's birthday. Chinese new year was a big thing because it was only then more food was provided.

Colleges were all closed until Deng reopened it in the spring of 1978.

Life is much better now than 30 years ago.

> 程序员安全感

1) Programs is universal. Good programers can find job anywhere in the world.

2) Every field is trying to reducing cost, so use computer to automate things used to be done by human is a good way to reduce cost. So essentailly programmers are eating away other people's job.

3) Computer hardwares are still evolving at rapid speed to be cheap and better. So there are more and more places with computers being used, which means more jobs for programmers.

Sometimes ago, people in US killed all the wolves in national parks. Then the deers were very happy, because there is no one to chase them around. They have all the time to eat tiny young trees. So they became fatter and the forest suffers too.

To solve the problem, people brought wolves from Canada to US. Now the deers are not safe any more. They have to run around to get away from wolves, the weak ones will be killed by wolves. They also do not have time to eat tiny young trees. The result is healthy deers and healthy forest.

> UT裁员15%,请大家讨论

As the company is listed on stock market, they have to do something to please the stock holders. Otherwise, stock price will fall even more and more people will lose jobs.

> 请教各位,你们公司开发人员的工资是如何定的?

Good company normally have different levels, each level having different requirements, responsibility and salary.

Strong people will move much quickily in levels and salary. 工龄 and 学历 should not be important.

 
 
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 回复人: long111(射手:我要飞得更高,飞得更高) ( ) 信誉:99  2005-2-28 15:25:34  得分: 0 
 
 
  
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学习英语

 
 
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 回复人: smallrole(小角色) ( ) 信誉:98  2005-2-28 15:29:15  得分: 0 
 
 
  
希望袁峰大哥希望您看到后,把你回复的所有地址都告诉我,省得我这么辛苦了收集了。如果你不知道怎么得到自己回复过的地址,follow me

在左侧菜单找到“我的技术社区-》我参与的问题”
好了把每个地址都贴上来吧,大家快顶不要沉啊

 
 
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 回复人: yturieo(慈航__伤痕是男人的勋章) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-2-28 15:44:54  得分: 0 
 
 
  
goof job.

 
 
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 回复人: yturieo(慈航__伤痕是男人的勋章) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-2-28 15:45:31  得分: 0 
 
 
  
Good job.

 
 
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 回复人: shanewest1(炉子) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-2-28 15:54:05  得分: 0 
 
 
  
顶上去

 
 
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 回复人: flyingcar(我问猪,你会思想吗,猪哭了,猪问我,你敢说话吗,我哭了.) ( ) 信誉:89  2005-2-28 15:54:39  得分: 0 
 
 
  
Good job.

 
 
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 回复人: yelang771(牧野流星) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-2-28 15:55:33  得分: 0 
 
 
  
up  景仰~~

 
 
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 回复人: lhsoft(PB只会用5.0版) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-2-28 15:56:00  得分: 0 
 
 
  
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 回复人: brucejia(大碗喝酒,大块吃肉) ( ) 信誉:92  2005-2-28 15:58:49  得分: 0 
 
 
  
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 回复人: skyinfo(MFC) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-2-28 16:05:52  得分: 0 
 
 
  
袁峰(MSFT),我的偶像

 
 
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 回复人: fuxia(双子星) ( ) 信誉:70  2005-2-28 16:06:38  得分: 0 
 
 
  
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 回复人: Magnus(小楼一夜听春雨) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-2-28 16:11:24  得分: 0 
 
 
  
个人崇拜??

 
 
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 回复人: Hiyeah2001(晨风) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-2-28 16:13:16  得分: 0 
 
 
  
顶!

 
 
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 回复人: hubinasm(火星撞地球之闭关修炼) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-2-28 16:15:42  得分: 0 
 
 
  
呵呵 mark

 
 
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 回复人: Server_Transfer(系统崩溃,边重装边上网) ( ) 信誉:95  2005-2-28 16:20:36  得分: 0 
 
 
  
袁峰是做什么的,在哪里,英语很好对不对。好像写的都是英文呢,了不起。
还有他在csdn里担任合职位,怎么多人崇拜,不要嘛,典型的斯大林(个人崇拜主意)。

 
 
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 回复人: cyouyou(..此处省略500字..) ( ) 信誉:93  2005-2-28 16:22:54  得分: 0 
 
 
  
^_^

 
 
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 回复人: Spectrum(【︽♂火︾凤︽凰♂︾㊣】) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-2-28 16:25:18  得分: 0 
 
 
  
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 回复人: sea2004(小云) ( ) 信誉:99  2005-2-28 16:33:48  得分: 0 
 
 
  
学习

 
 
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 回复人: crashbluebird(撞人蓝鸟) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-2-28 16:36:40  得分: 0 
 
 
  
不错不错 我很喜欢他的个人主页的说

 
 
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 回复人: prgmBaggio(朝九晚五何时了?!房子汽车何时有?!) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-2-28 17:12:06  得分: 0 
 
 
  
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他不会是INTEL的吧?

 
 
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 回复人: keen_9(新新) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-2-28 17:16:51  得分: 0 
 
 
  
hehe

 
 
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 回复人: sunlightbj(阳光) ( ) 信誉:97  2005-2-28 17:25:07  得分: 0 
 
 
  
微软美国总部有一千五百华人啊,接近十分之一

问一下袁峰大哥,这些人都是在美国毕业留下来的吗?有没有从国内直接通过网上在线申请,应聘过去的?

我们这边飞利浦总部中国人也很多,一张宣传画在全球研发总部门口,上面是飞利浦办公室里一个中国人和印度人握手。据说电子部门几乎每个组都有中国人,电子业界精英云集,前几天中餐馆吃饭跟一个中国人聊天,居然是飞利浦首席科学家,我们学校机械系兼职教授;还曾遇到以前的西门子亚太区总裁,来自“中国的台湾”(很少有台湾人主动说来自中国)

 
 
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 回复人: Jees() ( ) 信誉:100  2005-2-28 17:29:41  得分: 0 
 
 
  
太棒了!!!very good

 
 
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 回复人: ProgrammerPro(Programer) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-2-28 17:32:26  得分: 0 
 
 
  
有时间再看。
  I am busy with a java MIS framework now!

 
 
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挖哈哈。

 
 
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 回复人: cryptonym(想裸睡) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-2-28 17:49:22  得分: 0 
 
 
  
我就觉得他的e文很好哦.

 
 
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晕,闲得

 
 
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 回复人: w7x(舍我其谁) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-2-28 19:45:25  得分: 0 
 
 
  
袁大侠应该在微软总部吧!

高手!

 
 
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mark,学习英语

 
 
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高人

 
 
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 回复人: cutman(接分来了) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-1 9:05:33  得分: 0 
 
 
  
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 回复人: blueing(虚函数(向后翻腾两周半!)) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-1 13:14:32  得分: 0 
 
 
  
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 回复人: suro(╃土家妹╃)(……每逢看到月亮就会想起我!) ( ) 信誉:57  2005-3-1 13:28:43  得分: 0 
 
 
  
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 回复人: FengYuanMSFT(袁峰 www.fengyuan.com) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-1 13:32:15  得分: 0 
 
 
  
Check csdn.fengyuan.com.

I'm going to add more stuff to that page.

> 袁峰是做什么的,在哪里,英语很好对不对。好像写的都是英文呢,了不起。

I'm an old software design engineer. Actually, my English is not that good, you should be able to find mistakes easily. I'm using English most of the time just because typing English is much faster for me. If I type in Chinese, I would be 5 to 10 times slower.

> 还有他在csdn里担任合职位,怎么多人崇拜,不要嘛,典型的斯大林(个人崇拜主意)。

No title. Somehow CSDN decided to give me 5 stars.
Yes, I agree with you, 个人崇拜 is bad. People should be respected becuase of their ideas.

> 问一下袁峰大哥,这些人都是在美国毕业留下来的吗?有没有从国内直接通过网上在线申请,
> 应聘过去的?

I have not attended one day school outside of China, but I joined HP first before joining Microsoft. I know some people transferred from Microsoft China to US. Not sure about hiring directly from China. A few days ago, there was ad about hiring people from Asia directly to Microsoft US.

Thanks, smallrole.

 
 
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 回复人: fireredfox(火狐狸) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-1 14:29:30  得分: 0 
 
 
  
Mark,励志之言。

 
 
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 回复人: jink(毁人不倦) ( ) 信誉:80  2005-3-1 14:42:34  得分: 0 
 
 
  
唉,,,,又是个人崇拜

 
 
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 回复人: gengxl(从今天起,做一个幸福的root,劈柴喂马,周游英特耐。) ( ) 信誉:99  2005-3-1 14:44:48  得分: 0 
 
 
  
牛人,mark

 
 
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 回复人: peng22277(乐斗:DEBUG) ( ) 信誉:94  2005-3-1 14:46:43  得分: 0 
 
 
  
支持一下

 
 
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 回复人: BlueprintIrene(我只能用程序来麻痹自己) ( ) 信誉:98  2005-3-1 15:08:17  得分: 0 
 
 
  
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 回复人: woshipgfan(哈哈哈哈) ( ) 信誉:98  2005-3-1 15:09:57  得分: 0 
 
 
  
MARK

 
 
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 回复人: xzhifei(饭桶超人(抵制日货)) ( ) 信誉:86  2005-3-1 15:18:05  得分: 0 
 
 
  

做技术做到袁老大这样就爽了,呵呵

 

 
 
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 回复人: tiger_ibm(bigfish) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-1 15:24:15  得分: 0 
 
 
  
感觉是个厚道的人.

 
 
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 回复人: love_code(小眼镜) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-1 15:24:48  得分: 0 
 
 
  
mark

 
 
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 回复人: qingxigao(高庆禧) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-1 15:25:46  得分: 0 
 
 
  
这点英语就值得楼主顶礼膜拜的?

楼主大概对英语六级没有什么概念吧

这些英语虽说真的很不错,但也不应该这样崇拜吧

 
 
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 回复人: Soundboy(老猫) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-1 15:48:08  得分: 0 
 
 
  
I think we should do more action in work withe the attitude of Mr.

 
 
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 回复人: hncdczp(不要了) ( ) 信誉:94  2005-3-1 15:51:10  得分: 0 
 
 
  
看看

 
 
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 回复人: bistar(明星鱼) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-1 15:54:52  得分: 0 
 
 
  
PRETTY GOOD。。。

 
 
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 回复人: TomMax(笑望人生) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 8:21:49  得分: 0 
 
 
  
这个主题内容很好。收藏。

 
 
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 回复人: cvsuser(想当螃蟹的猪头) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 8:40:01  得分: 0 
 
 
  
mark

 
 
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 回复人: 8thdetective(bbllyy) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 8:47:36  得分: 0 
 
 
  
mark

 
 
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 回复人: alec626(月吻长河) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 9:02:58  得分: 0 
 
 
  
MARK

 
 
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 回复人: xjs1231(不知道换什么昵称了) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 9:04:35  得分: 0 
 
 
  
mark,潜力贴

 
 
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 回复人: wonderyou(凌云) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 9:14:22  得分: 0 
 
 
  
good idea

 
 
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 回复人: cosby(IT是技术行业吗) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 9:25:25  得分: 0 
 
 
  
有意思!!!

 
 
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 回复人: jiezhi() ( ) 信誉:105  2005-3-2 9:29:52  得分: 0 
 
 
  
up

 
 
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 回复人: cqhejun(雪人) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 9:33:21  得分: 0 
 
 
  
有谁是因为袁峰英文好才感觉他厉害的吗?不是.
而是他做人的态度!

 
 
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 回复人: zhoumg() ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 10:09:01  得分: 0 
 
 
  
mark

 
 
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 回复人: leo2003(C# Coder) ( ) 信誉:90  2005-3-2 10:19:17  得分: 0 
 
 
  
UP

 
 
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 回复人: azev(阿则) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 11:14:50  得分: 0 
 
 
  
mark

 
 
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 回复人: pingyou(裸男.NET) ( ) 信誉:105  2005-3-2 11:15:57  得分: 0 
 
 
  

Study

 
 
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 回复人: BubbleKitty(冒泡猫|Nothing seek,nothing find.) ( ) 信誉:98  2005-3-2 11:31:20  得分: 0 
 
 
  
回复人: cqhejun(雪人) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-03-02 09:33:00  得分: 0 
 
 
   有谁是因为袁峰英文好才感觉他厉害的吗?不是.
而是他做人的态度!
 
 
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严重同意!!

 
 
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 回复人: chijingde(AD) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 11:54:14  得分: 0 
 
 
  
回复人: cqhejun(雪人) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-03-02 09:33:00  得分: 0 
 
 
   有谁是因为袁峰英文好才感觉他厉害的吗?不是.
而是他做人的态度!
 
 
----------------------
严重同意!!

 
 
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 回复人: mycsdnid(大佬) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 12:04:32  得分: 0 
 
 
  
看了楼主的整理才知道袁峰原来是这样一个人,确实很值得佩服。

是我们绝大部分程序员的学习榜样。

希望袁峰能够把他的成长过程写个小结之类的,让大家学习学习,顺便给大家指个方向!

 
 
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 回复人: llm06(blacksheep) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 12:23:56  得分: 0 
 
 
  
mark 一下

 
 
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 回复人: kebeixueng(黑侠柯) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 12:47:04  得分: 0 
 
 
  
有谁是因为袁峰英文好才感觉他厉害的吗?不是.
而是他做人的态度!

===========================
up

 
 
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 回复人: panpass(发了几个招聘帖子,信誉分就没了:() ( ) 信誉:99  2005-3-2 12:47:17  得分: 0 
 
 
  
高手啊。

 
 
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 回复人: QDash(那一年的剑伤) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 12:49:01  得分: 0 
 
 
  
我买过袁峰大哥的《Windows图形编程》,不过没有看完。呵呵!
顶一下!

 
 
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 回复人: xemean() ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 12:49:59  得分: 0 
 
 
  
留名

 
 
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 回复人: qozms(红翻天) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 12:51:39  得分: 0 
 
 
  
up

 
 
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 回复人: Winamp7(一天一两红葡萄) ( ) 信誉:1  2005-3-2 12:53:46  得分: 0 
 
 
  
good

 
 
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 回复人: speedingman(尘埃) ( ) 信誉:97  2005-3-2 13:14:31  得分: 0 
 
 
  
up

 
 
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 回复人: goldenyears(新手天天问*^_^*) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 13:18:06  得分: 0 
 
 
  
good

 
 
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 回复人: smallrole(小角色) ( ) 信誉:98  2005-3-2 13:24:32  得分: 0 
 
 
  
呵据我对袁峰大哥的了解,他应该是一个比较乐于助人的人
我曾经在李开复的网站在看到过他的身影,一个致力于帮助
程序员(特别是中国的程序员)提高软件设计水平、个人修
养、程序员道德、程序员生活等等覆盖了有关程序员的方方
面面的人,有什么理由我们不推崇呢。

我们从中要学的东西太多,不仅仅是对生活的心态,更对自
己的未来增加信心起到推进作用。至少我感谢你。一个程序
员要热爱自己的职位,如果有一天你说它不好了,那么这预
示着你将会离开。

他对整个程序员大家庭来说是一笔财富。

 
 
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 回复人: lujg0425(都市里的农民) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 13:45:30  得分: 0 
 
 
  
俺也来留个脚印!

 
 
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 回复人: godofsoft(软件之神) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 13:53:49  得分: 0 
 
 
  
Nice work!

to smallrole(小角色):

You are right!

 
 
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 回复人: angelheavens(龙辉) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 13:54:02  得分: 0 
 
 
  
好的榜样!
值得学习和借鉴

 
 
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 回复人: qianguob(不懂编程) ( ) 信誉:98  2005-3-2 13:54:42  得分: 0 
 
 
  

回复人: cqhejun(雪人) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-03-02 09:33:00  得分: 0 
 
 
   有谁是因为袁峰英文好才感觉他厉害的吗?不是.
而是他做人的态度!
 
 
----------------------
严重同意!!

 
 
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 回复人: whbo(王红波(年轻人,要有所作为)) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 13:58:49  得分: 0 
 
 
  
学习

 
 
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 回复人: meizz(梅花雪) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 15:20:17  得分: 0 
 
 
  
向高手学习!

 
 
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 回复人: whuang826(孤鹰) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 16:26:23  得分: 0 
 
 
  
Mark

 
 
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 回复人: javafaq2004(大家注意——>我还健在<——快往左看) ( ) 信誉:86  2005-3-2 16:33:46  得分: 0 
 
 
  
学习

 
 
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 回复人: jxf_yx(清风) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 16:34:55  得分: 0 
 
 
  
up

 
 
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 回复人: oo(为了名副其实,努力学习oo技术ing) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 16:40:07  得分: 0 
 
 
  

 
 
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 回复人: websterjt(我遇到了正确的人,却停留在错误的时间!) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 16:48:06  得分: 0 
 
 
  
mark

 
 
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 回复人: bcdavid(不取高薪,焉娶美眉) ( ) 信誉:99  2005-3-2 17:04:28  得分: 0 
 
 
  
挺好的, 正好学习了一下英语。
袁大哥的为人 也 值得我们佩服和学习。

 
 
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 回复人: sky1982(sky-抵制日货) ( ) 信誉:99  2005-3-2 17:05:13  得分: 0 
 
 
  
顶!

 
 
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 回复人: Juchiyufei(命运&&天意) ( ) 信誉:96  2005-3-2 17:20:01  得分: 0 
 
 
  
UP

 
 
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 回复人: FengYuanMSFT(袁峰 www.fengyuan.com) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 17:36:21  得分: 0 
 
 
  
csdn.fengyuan.com 又加了一点东西.

最好玩两条是:

1) MM说:IT有为青年一般都土得掉渣!我在心底出离地愤怒了...(naive_lin)
2) 能够让一个男人回心转意呢?*(非婚勿进)*(XXlNancy)

 
 
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 回复人: EastLine() ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 17:47:28  得分: 0 
 
 
  
mk.

 
 
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 回复人: lukaizhi(天天) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 17:58:28  得分: 0 
 
 
  
Mark

 
 
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 回复人: skylan(君若为云,我愿为风,领君遨游宇宙中) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 18:16:05  得分: 0 
 
 
  
慢慢看

 
 
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 回复人: ppddt008(pp点点通零零发) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 18:45:49  得分: 0 
 
 
  
mark

 
 
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 回复人: dodofcboy(鼓手) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 18:57:30  得分: 0 
 
 
  
up

 
 
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 回复人: zmjasmine(#_#鹭岛小丫"=.="凤凰花呀开呀开) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 18:59:42  得分: 0 
 
 
  
值得停下来一看

 
 
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 回复人: stan_uni(身体是革命的本钱) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 19:35:31  得分: 0 
 
 
  
值得收藏

 
 
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 回复人: goldfield(赤脚奔跑在金色田野) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 19:40:08  得分: 0 
 
 
  
mark

 
 
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 回复人: ZengMuAnSha(曾牧暗鲨_王侯将相你有种乎?) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 19:47:34  得分: 0 
 
 
  
主  题:  程序员最需要的是安全感

Sometimes  ago,  people  in  US  killed  all  the  wolves  in  national  parks.  Then  the  deers  were  very  happy,  because  there  is  no  one  to  chase  them  around.  They  have  all  the  time  to  eat  tiny  young  trees.  So  they  became  fatter  and  the  forest  suffers  too. 
 
To  solve  the  problem,  people  brought  wolves  from  Canada  to  US.  Now  the  deers  are  not  safe  any  more.  They  have  to  run  around  to  get  away  from  wolves,  the  weak  ones  will  be  killed  by  wolves.  They  also  do  not  have  time  to  eat  tiny  young  trees.  The  result  is  healthy  deers  and  healthy  forest.

 
 
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 回复人: LoveCreatesBeauty(爱产生美) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 19:57:03  得分: 0 
 
 
  
up

 
 
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 回复人: scorpionyjg() ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 20:05:33  得分: 0 
 
 
  
收藏!

 
 
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 回复人: yfxie(@←→@) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 21:25:58  得分: 0 
 
 
  
UP

 
 
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 回复人: godofsoft(软件之神) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 21:35:30  得分: 0 
 
 
  
袁大哥啊,你的那本书就是我每天的精神食粮啊!建议Windows程序员人手一本。

袁大哥的学养和才能不在侯捷先生之下,但比侯捷先生更加内敛,更加令人感到亲切,更加与我们这些IT晚生们心贴心,到底是大陆自己培养出来的,有了现实的学习榜样。

感动中。。。

 
 
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 回复人: hc_yao(木头) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-2 22:26:25  得分: 0 
 
 
  
袁大哥应该是厚道的人,是我们的良师益友。
收藏

 
 
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 回复人: yiminggw(一口鸟·边走边睡) ( ) 信誉:98  2005-3-2 23:37:04  得分: 0 
 
 
  
o
:)

 
 
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 回复人: smallrole(小角色) ( ) 信誉:98  2005-3-3 7:13:55  得分: 0 
 
 
  
to be continue

 
 
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 回复人: annymu(镁铝) ( ) 信誉:110  2005-3-3 10:31:07  得分: 0 
 
 
  

收藏

 
 
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 回复人: brucejia(大碗喝酒,大块吃肉) ( ) 信誉:92  2005-3-3 12:26:26  得分: 0 
 
 
  
袁老大总算用中文了!

 
 
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 回复人: sdwf(学习.NET中) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-3 13:01:11  得分: 0 
 
 
  
mark

 
 
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 回复人: lihongyue(小头帘) ( ) 信誉:105  2005-3-3 13:25:11  得分: 0 
 
 
  
学习

 
 
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 回复人: wjlsmail(小脖领) ( ) 信誉:101  2005-3-3 13:25:49  得分: 0 
 
 
  
学习

 
 
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 回复人: emu(祝福后山) ( ) 信誉:99  2005-3-3 17:41:22  得分: 0 
 
 
  
这个经典!

> 为什么外国程序员的工资是几万,中国的是几千?公司要招一个外籍华人,工资比我多个0,不平衡!
....
Now he has $850 a month left, a net saving of 17% (plus 401k, plus social security) if he does not spend on other things.

看了还敢去米国吗 :-P

 
 
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 回复人: myhero811104(人生四大想不开:改嫁、出家、自杀、做软件开发) ( ) 信誉:99  2005-3-4 11:55:38  得分: 0 
 
 
  
好帖

 
 
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 回复人: WYJ123((Q&Q)) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-4 13:23:38  得分: 0 
 
 
  
学习

 
 
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 回复人: smallrole(小角色) ( ) 信誉:98  2005-3-6 8:09:12  得分: 0 
 
 
  
加油

 
 
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 回复人: zxq520zf(╭⊙_⊙╮)(亿万负翁)(OH,MY GOD!彩票居然中了5块钱!) ( ) 信誉:57  2005-3-6 8:34:53  得分: 0 
 
 
  
偶是英文BC  什么也看不懂

 
 
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 回复人: FireEmissary(咒火使者) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-6 8:41:13  得分: 0 
 
 
  
翻译一下好不?

 
 
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 回复人: coolkkk(囍) ( ) 信誉:71  2005-3-6 9:29:50  得分: 0 
 
 
  
Strong people

 
 
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 回复人: lall(); Girl my= new Girl(single); my.find(beijing) ( ) 信誉:96  2005-3-6 10:07:59  得分: 0 
 
 
  
...

 
 
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 回复人: zhangwencui(文一) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-6 12:14:08  得分: 0 
 
 
  
顶一下!程序员们加油啊!

 
 
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 回复人: nonocast(如果没有如果) ( ) 信誉:98  2005-3-6 13:20:54  得分: 0 
 
 
  
好久没在这么长的帖子前停下了
windows图形编程绝对是本好书
只不过我感到有些不爽的是一个中国人用英语写然后再是其他的中国人将他翻成中文
非常希望yuanfeng大哥能提供英文原版的
体会到您的原汁原味

管理上我欣赏余世维
技术上我佩服yuanfeng
两者都是我学习的榜样,前进的动力

 
 
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 回复人: gzwin2008(风中劲草) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-6 21:53:33  得分: 0 
 
 
  
默默地学习............................

 
 
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 回复人: CrazyAzreal(卖血上网) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-6 23:43:56  得分: 0 
 
 
  
学习中!

 
 
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 回复人: CSDNATM(青蛙【笑看风云】) ( ) 信誉:103  2005-3-7 12:07:53  得分: 0 
 
 
  
以下是用程序查到的,不知道有没有错漏

1、没有结帖的

主题:本人一年以来,呕心沥血收集“袁峰(MSFT)”大哥精彩回帖的贴子,现在回报社会。有不全的请大家补充。
作者:smallrole(小角色)
回复:Check csdn.fengyuan.com.

I'm going to add more stuff to that page.

> 袁峰是做什么的,在哪里,英语很好对不对。好像写的都是英文呢,了不起。

I'm an old software design engineer. Actually, my English is not that good, you should be able to find mistakes easily. I'm using English most of the time just because typing English is much faster for me. If I type in Chinese, I would be 5 to 10 times slower.

> 还有他在csdn里担任合职位,怎么多人崇拜,不要嘛,典型的斯大林(个人崇拜主意)。

No title. Somehow CSDN decided to give me 5 stars.
Yes, I agree with you, 个人崇拜 is bad. People should be respected becuase of their ideas.

> 问一下袁峰大哥,这些人都是在美国毕业留下来的吗?有没有从国内直接通过网上在线申请,
> 应聘过去的?

I have not attended one day school outside of China, but I joined HP first before joining Microsoft. I know some people transferred from Microsoft China to US. Not sure about hiring directly from China. A few days ago, there was ad about hiring people from Asia directly to Microsoft US.

Thanks, smallrole.
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3812/3812393.xml
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主题:本人一年以来,呕心沥血收集“袁峰(MSFT)”大哥精彩回帖的贴子,现在回报社会。有不全的请大家补充。
作者:smallrole(小角色)
回复:csdn.fengyuan.com 又加了一点东西.

最好玩两条是:

1) MM说:IT有为青年一般都土得掉渣!我在心底出离地愤怒了...(naive_lin)
2) 能够让一个男人回心转意呢?*(非婚勿进)*(XXlNancy)
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3812/3812393.xml
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主题:我一天的生活
作者:sadcruiser(越语秋)
回复:悲伤, 感动

戒酒, 戒烟, 读书, ...
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3825/3825328.xml
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主题:为一套房子你要奋斗多少年?(ZT)
作者:deeploves(光芒寂寞)
回复:The cost of owning a property is not the price, it's mainly interest and property tax. If you make the right choice, you should be able to sell the property later to get back the money you spent and possibly some profit.

For example, if you buy a 500K house, 400K loan, with 5 percent interest, monthly interest payment is 1.6K. That is the only you really spend. The money spent on reducing loan principle should be considered a form of saving/investment. You also need to consider how much money you can make from the down payment you put in.
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3488/3488437.xml
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主题:为一套房子你要奋斗多少年?(ZT)
作者:deeploves(光芒寂寞)
回复:房子奋斗不完的. 过几年可能换工作, 可能嫌小, 可能钱多想投资, 又要换房.
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3488/3488437.xml
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主题:程序员的前途...
作者:xingxingy0326(小杨)
回复:Some questions to ask yourself:

1) Can I retire now?
2) If I do nothing to change my career, would I still have my current job in 5 years and be happy with my salary ?

The answer to the first question is most likely no.

The answer to the second quetion could be either yes or no. If the answer is yes, you are in a good position, just enjoy life. If the answer is no, then you need some change in your career planning.

I had similar issue four years ago. At that time, I was working for HP on printer drivers, which I had been doing for 5 years. The job itself is becoming boring, but salary is still quite good. What bothered me is that HP was pushing for more and more out sourcing for software development, mostly to India. Besides printer driver development, the other majoy software field within HP would be firmware development. I have done firmware development before and I did not think it will keep me interested for long. Another thing about HP is that each HP site quite small, about a few thousand people. So there are not many software jobs to choice from at one site. So the conclusion was that I do not see myself having a good software development job with HP in 5 years, and I do not want to go into management.

The action I took was driving 3 hours to the north and work for Microsoft. At Redmond, Washington, Microsoft has over 26,000 employee in a single site, with lots of buildings. There are endless software to write. If you're bored with one field, move to another building to find a new job.

Suggestion: improve yourself, either look for a better job or make sure you're qualified for a better job if you want to.
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3824/3824775.xml
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主题:在这行混了3年以上的进来聊聊。你们现在的心态
作者:GOALSTAR(靓女又怎样,我是读书人)
回复:人往高处走
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3809/3809367.xml
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主题:MM说:IT有为青年一般都土得掉渣!我在心底出离地愤怒了...
作者:naive_lin(小林)
回复:我最土:

 1) 拿到大学入学通知书, 不会打电话给老爸
 2) 手表, 皮鞋大学毕业后才买的
 3) 上研究生后才学自行车
 4) 从未抽过烟
 5) 去新加坡后, 一星期内去澳大利亚, 头发极乱
 6) 在美国第一年, 有好工作, 不会开车, 骑自行车, $ 25 GARAGE SALE 买的.
 7) 坐公共汽车去买房,AGENT 百思不解
 8) 昨天在地里种青菜
 9) 现在还是开八年前买的车,过一阵再骑自行车上班
10) 学位全是土的,没上过一天洋学堂

IT 有为青年一般都土得掉渣, 不过以后魅力一天比一天大
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3812/3812263.xml
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主题:最近真的很郁闷,上班每天早出晚归感觉累,而且工资也不是很高,感觉前途无望,今年26了,还没有女朋友,银行也没有存款,简直感到绝望,,,,,,,,,
作者:onclick1999(无欲无求)
回复:Working should be more than just the salary. What is very important is improving your skill so you can get a better job.

If your job is so demanding that you can't live a normal life or having time to improve yourself, consider changing it.
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3810/3810174.xml
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主题:天天骑自行车上班的程序员,谈谈你的体会和苦恼?
作者:TechSupport(客户热线)
回复:夏天骑车, 两公里, 平地, 骑在人行到上, 没什么人, 不用找车位
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3823/3823085.xml
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 回复人: CSDNATM(青蛙【笑看风云】) ( ) 信誉:103  2005-3-7 12:08:30  得分: 0 
 
 
  
2、已结帖子

主题:FengYuanMSFT CSDN 即兴言论
作者:FengYuanMSFT(袁峰 www.fengyuan.com)
回复:> 老程序员到底有多老

44

> MSFT是不是Microsoft?

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csdn.fengyuan.com 又加了一点东西.

最好玩两条是:

1) MM说:IT有为青年一般都土得掉渣!我在心底出离地愤怒了...(naive_lin)
2) 能够让一个男人回心转意呢?*(非婚勿进)*(XXlNancy)
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3816/3816850.xml
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主题:FengYuanMSFT CSDN 即兴言论
作者:FengYuanMSFT(袁峰 www.fengyuan.com)
回复:> 有时间,说说您的儿子吧.:)

儿子有他的网站: qc.fengyuan.com. 全部是他做的.

这是他几年前写的一篇作文:http://qc.fengyuan.com/?p=stories/alz&s=darkhon&f=

他的最新理想是读 MIT, Stanford 类的学校,再和两个朋友开软件公司.
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3816/3816850.xml
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主题:FengYuanMSFT CSDN 即兴言论
作者:FengYuanMSFT(袁峰 www.fengyuan.com)
回复:Some more added to csdn.fengyuan.com. Current size: 112 Kb.
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3816/3816850.xml
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主题:成熟和不成熟的区别
作者:FengYuanMSFT(袁峰 www.fengyuan.com)
回复:> 您自己总结的吧 ?

然也

> 那么这些您都做到了么?您觉得您成熟?不成熟?界乎二者之间?:)

大事不糊涂. 围棋还没有入段.

> 春节可有回国?

太忙. 计划四月去新加坡, 然后回国.

新年快乐!阖家幸福安康!事业蒸蒸日上!!:)
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3783/3783194.xml
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主题:成熟的人和不成熟的人之间有什么区别
作者:changshasj(sj)
回复:A mature person has few defects in the program running in his/her head.

A mature person can improve the program running in his/her head gradually to make it better.
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3721/3721839.xml
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主题:成熟的人和不成熟的人之间有什么区别
作者:changshasj(sj)
回复:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3783/3783194.xml?temp=.8142053
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3721/3721839.xml
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主题:程序员最需要的是安全感
作者:ZengMuAnSha(曾牧暗鲨)
回复:程序员安全感

1) Programs is universal. Good programers can find job anywhere in the world.

2) Every field is trying to reducing cost, so use computer to automate things used to be done by human is a good way to reduce cost. So essentailly programmers are eating away other people's job.

3) Computer hardwares are still evolving at rapid speed to be cheap and better. So there are more and more places with computers being used, which means more jobs for programmers.
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3727/3727463.xml
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主题:程序员最需要的是安全感
作者:ZengMuAnSha(曾牧暗鲨)
回复:Sometimes ago, people in US killed all the wolves in national parks. Then the deers were very happy, because there is no one to chase them around. They have all the time to eat tiny young trees. So they became fatter and the forest suffers too.

To solve the problem, people brought wolves from Canada to US. Now the deers are not safe any more. They have to run around to get away from wolves, the weak ones will be killed by wolves. They also do not have time to eat tiny young trees. The result is healthy deers and healthy forest.
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3727/3727463.xml
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主题:英文离职信。
作者:Viper()
回复:I'm sorry to inform you that I've decided to leave this company for personal reasons. My last day will be XXX. Please be assured that I will do my best in transferring my work to someone else, and hopefully my resignation will not affect project schedule.

Regards

YYY
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3812/3812287.xml
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主题:如果感觉平时工作自己的技术已经足够了但又想学点东西,该学什么啊?
作者:ynduanlian(进一步海阔天高,退一步粉身碎骨)
回复:1. Think about how to get your boss' job.
2. Think about what kind of job you want to do next year, or in 5 years.
3. Think about how to enrich your life.
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3654/3654379.xml
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主题:请问,怎样才能使自己勤奋起来?
作者:tiegudanxin()
回复:If you're happy with your current life and future life, just enjoy it, why work harder? Most people try to worker harder so that they can retire earlier to enjoy life.

If you're not happy with your current life and future life, then you need to work harder, unless you can depending on someone else to provide you a better life.

So think hard:

1) Are you happy with your current life?
2) If you continue with the current pace, when will your life be in 5 years? Are you happy with it?
3) If you work harder and smarter, what is possible for your future?

4) Set up a goal.
5) Devise a plan.
6) Go step by step according to your plan to achieve your goal, adjust when needed.
网址:http://community.csdn.net/Expert/topic/3793/3793025.xml
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 回复人: cyp403(翱翔) ( ) 信誉:99  2005-3-7 13:06:41  得分: 0 
 
 
  
Mark this......
thx..

 
 
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 回复人: avia(Vango mingo) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-7 13:21:48  得分: 0 
 
 
  
:)

 
 
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 回复人: FengYuanMSFT(袁峰 www.fengyuan.com) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-7 14:35:29  得分: 0 
 
 
  
csdn.fengyuan.com

 
 
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 回复人: love_code(小眼镜) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-7 15:24:22  得分: 0 
 
 
  
先mark

再慢慢看

 

 
 
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 回复人: huwei001982(編程浪子) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-7 16:08:59  得分: 0 
 
 
  
袁大哥的学养和才能不在侯捷先生之下
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这两个人是不一样的

侯捷是做翻译的,自已好像并没有写过多少书

袁峰是真正的软件工程师,跟我们的距离要近一些(不是指能力,而是指职业)

 
 
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 回复人: smallrole(小角色) ( ) 信誉:98  2005-3-8 8:45:11  得分: 0 
 
 
  
单从袁大哥做的网页来说,毫无欣赏艺术感
要是从它反应的内容来看,可以看到程序员的人生
对我们来说极有价值的珍贵资料。

 
 
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 回复人: CodeMagic(ErrorDetector) ( ) 信誉:95  2005-3-8 13:00:05  得分: 0 
 
 
  
mark

 
 
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 回复人: carroty(萝卜铁) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-10 17:08:01  得分: 0 
 
 
  
mark

 
 
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 回复人: tim90(三个愿望) ( ) 信誉:98  2005-3-10 17:26:36  得分: 0 
 
 
  
敬重MSFT大师

 
 
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 回复人: xiaomin1300(是时候醒了) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-11 8:52:00  得分: 0 
 
 
  
有谁是因为袁峰英文好才感觉他厉害的吗?不是.
而是他做人的态度!
 
 
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严重同意!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 
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 回复人: gcc520() ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-11 17:31:09  得分: 0 
 
 
  
感覺不錯﹗UP
另在這附上如何得到袁峰參與的所有貼子的方法﹐也讓smallroler不用這么辛苦(不過還是很感謝他﹗﹗)
http://community.csdn.net/List/TopicsList.aspx?ReplyUserName=FengYuanMSFT&type=1

 
 
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 回复人: zhyjxy(NE守望者) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-11 17:58:23  得分: 0 
 
 
  
留个脚印

 
 
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 回复人: pcent(小萝卜头.NET) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-12 14:15:27  得分: 0 
 
 
  
留个脚印

 
 
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 回复人: tttick(从大一开始.NET与JAVA并举!我有五个星星★★★★★) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-12 15:13:52  得分: 0 
 
 
  
留个脚印

 
 
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 回复人: ly_liuyang(Liu Yang) ( ) 信誉:106  2005-3-12 15:30:26  得分: 0 
 
 
  
呵呵,路过的~

http://lysoft.7u7.net

 
 
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 回复人: delphiyesgood(呆呆) ( ) 信誉:93  2005-3-12 15:58:51  得分: 0 
 
 
  
向袁峰学习,兄弟们加油啊,努力吧!!

 
 
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 回复人: sankt(黄景天) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-12 16:26:19  得分: 0 
 
 
  
好贴
up

 
 
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 回复人: 疯子() ( ) 信誉:94  2005-3-16 12:17:39  得分: 0 
 
 
  
:)

 
 
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 回复人: theNull(一无所有) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-16 12:37:28  得分: 0 
 
 
  
thank you yuan

 
 
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 回复人: jyplp(男人应该放的下) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-16 12:55:49  得分: 0 
 
 
  
mark

 
 
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 回复人: DanielWYO(被"爱上小白"爱上的"小白") ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-16 12:59:10  得分: 0 
 
 
  

马屁拍到这种程度, I 真是 pf 你们啊! 真够"呕心沥血"的.

 

 
 
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 回复人: smallrole(小角色) ( ) 信誉:98  2005-3-16 21:36:57  得分: 0 
 
 
  
to gcc520

这个太有用了,时分感谢:)

 
 
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 回复人: zmjasmine(#_#鹭岛小丫"=.="凤凰花呀开呀开) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-17 9:14:59  得分: 0 
 
 
  
再看下

 
 
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 回复人: lonkil(www.vcfans.com) ( ) 信誉:100  2005-3-17 9:24:17  得分: 0 
 
 
  
袁老头,强人
支持一下!

 
 
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